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BSchneider2000
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Re: 530 chain conversion
Reply #10 - 08.01.25 at 00:38:56
 
Salute....

If the bike has not been moving for years, it is possible that the grease has
dried out a bit, which affects mobility.
Put the bike on the main stand and let the engine run with the gear engaged
for 10 minutes, ... the chain is like new again. (... with grease in the box, of course.)
If the sprockets have no (minimal) wear, the chain is also in OK.
The weight should only make a difference of about 200g,
depending on the model (American / European).

I think the increase in performance is a fairy tale, ... go to the toilet before
the trip and only eat something after the trip,
... and you will have a better increase in performance / acceleration. 😁Hi, hi ...

One more note: Under no circumstances should a chain with an O-ring
be placed in the chain case, otherwise it will destroy the chain and the
rubber hoses of the chain case!!!
Greetings Bruno Cool

 
 

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Re: 530 chain conversion
Reply #11 - 08.01.25 at 15:55:54
 
Thank you Bruno and Hornschorsch.
Perhaps I am chasing an illusion and creating extra work!
I will heed your expertise and stay with the existing nu630 chain.  I think I will measure the chain to look for any excessive elongation and wear.  There was a small amount of grease in the case and the chain was very oiled up.  Should I at least wipe it down and add fresh grease?
The bike needs to be cleaned up thoroughly, but it was a daily runner according to the previous owner.
It is a Canadian bike and I live in the USA, so it would be easier on the rider to have a speedometer reading in MPH instead of KMH.  Both of you have other Yamahas.  Were their speedometers of that era calibrated the same?  Could I use an XS400, XS650, or RD350 speedo without changing any gearing inside?
Thank you again!

 
 

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Re: 530 chain conversion
Reply #12 - 08.01.25 at 18:40:58
 
Hi, ...

...fresh grease would be advisable. Use lithium grease (specifications), which
is very pressure-stable in the joints, ...although other greases can also be used.

Tip: Pay attention to the ventilation in the chain case, see answer #17:
https://www.tr1.de/pages/forum.php?iQuery=num=1700227351/17

Speedometer see here:
https://www.tr1.de/pages/forum.php?iQuery=num=1728890516/0
Greetings Bruno Cool

Ps. Take a photo of the bike.

 
 

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Re: 530 chain conversion
Reply #13 - 08.01.25 at 22:35:42
 
Noch ein Hinweis: Unter keinen Umständen sollte eine Kette mit einem O-Ring
im Kettenkasten platziert werden, sonst wird die Kette beschädigt und die
zerstöre die Gummischläuche des Kettenschutzes!!!

Ich fahre seit 16 Jahren mit einer O-Ring-Kette und habe mittlerweile 60.000 km zurückgelegt.
Kein Fett im Gummischlauche und einmal pro Jahr einen Klecks Fahrradfett (Kugellagerfett) auf die Innenseite der Kette auftragen.
In all den Jahren musste ich die Kette nur zweimal nachspannen!

 
 

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Re: 530 chain conversion
Reply #14 - 09.01.25 at 17:55:24
 
Yamaroel,
You say not to use an O-ring chain, then you say you have done it for 60,000 km?
Did you remove the enclosure?

 
 

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Re: 530 chain conversion
Reply #15 - 09.01.25 at 19:48:12
 
Dieser Kommentar stammte von Bschneider2000 und ich habe darauf geantwortet.

 
 

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Re: 530 chain conversion
Reply #16 - 10.01.25 at 13:23:23
 
Grandparipper (btw, whats your real name?), Roel cited Bruno but he did not mark it as a cite. In general Bruno is right, a chain with o-rings should not be placed into the chain case. And there should be some fluid grease or oil in the chain case, the oil transports the heat from the chain to the case. If it works for Roel this is fine but its not neccessary. Just keep the original chain and go riding! Wink

 
 

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Schorsch

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Re: 530 chain conversion
Reply #17 - 10.01.25 at 14:12:57
 
At 83,000km the chain has barely been run in. So far I only had to swap chains twice, once at around 130,000km, because I couldn't get a new (or used) clip-link for the DID 630 chain and one at 160,000km because a friend didn't trust it anymore. This one is now covered in oily grease, so I have a spare chain, should I need one. It has no discernible wear on it. Same goes for the sprockets.

Regarding the stiff links: oil the chain up with some penetrating oil, wait for a few days, then reinstall it with plenty of fresh grease. Check a few times for odd noises and once it has lasted 50km or so, give it a good handful on the Autobahn until the enclosure is nicely hot.

Cheers,
Greg

 
 

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Re: 530 chain conversion
Reply #18 - 12.01.25 at 00:13:10
 
Thank you all.
I will clean and re-lube the chain, inspect carefully the sprockets, clean and re-load the case and tubes with grease, then ride it for a nice long trip.  
By the way, I have ridden for several trips, including one for over an hour since I purchased it, so it has had time to heat up, melt the grease, and flow through the links.  
Thank you all for your help and insights!  I appreciate it.
More updates as I go through the rest of the cleanup and improvements!

 
 

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Re: 530 chain conversion
Reply #19 - 12.01.25 at 20:57:48
 
Hello Grandparipper,

...belated "Happy birthday and everything Good",
... and safe journey.
Bruno Cool

 
 

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