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fitztheviking
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lazy starter
28.06.08 at 22:05:21
 
i have a 1983 tr1 and it has been stood for 6 years.

i have changed the oil and replaced the spark plugs and cleaned the carbs. when i push the starter button the starter motor struggles to turn the motor past top dead centre. if i remove the spark plugs the engine will turn over very easily, as in one finger in a spanner. and the motor will turn it over too. but put the motor under any load and it makes a whining noise. i have checked the starter clutch and that is ok.

does anyone have any ideas?

thanks

alex

 
 
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Lalo
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Re: lazy starter
Reply #1 - 28.06.08 at 23:43:39
 
Perhaps the problem is the planetary gear inside the starter engine. If the outer ring gear is loose, the starter engine may turn, but it only drives the loose ring gear and not the axle of the starter gear that in the end should drive the crankshaft. There is an official Yamaha spare part to solve this problem and I bought it, but I didn't use it, because I couldn't imagine how it should work properly (it is just a disk that, when mounted, probably should increase the pressure onto the ring gear to keep it in position). I finally solved the problem by drilling a blind hole through the case of the starter engine into the ring gear and by putting a pin into the hole which fixes the ring gear to the starter engine case. Of course you have to stop drilling before you reach the inner side of the ring gear with the teeth.
This happened 12 years ago and still works fine (though I don't drive that much kilometers per year). I'm not sure, but probably I found this tip here on tr1.de somewhere in the old forum. By the way, there is a useful explanation of panetary gears on wikipedia (entry "Epicyclic gearing"), which may help to understand the problem.

 
 
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fitztheviking
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Re: lazy starter
Reply #2 - 01.07.08 at 08:58:10
 
well funny you should mention this!!!!!!! i had the starter rebuilt and all was well, i continued to try and start. so i took the carbs off and cleaned the offending item and when i put it back together the motor is spinning but not at the bussiness end. will try your fix not and let you know.

thanks alot

alex

 
 
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